he has full page ads saying, what do we have to do to please louisiana? there is a lot of feeling behind this by tort, and by tort lawyers on the defense side that this company is going to be asbestos, out of business, and they have to raise the reserves, but maybe a growing feeling that they were had by the court. >> and saying yes, yes, yes, to everything in the hoping that in this point they would be in the clear. >> they bougtd no goodwill that i can see, and they have tremendous assets and good dividend and better managed than they used to be, and they sold properties that did not hurt the production a la the big guys, but david, it is now a binary stock on a lawsuit. the lawsuit goes well, and goes badly -- that is a tough thing for anybody. it is a great situation for options people out there making an options bet, but this was a great company. and now it is in the hands of the court. >> well, they had a pretty big screw up, and don't forget that. >> well, it is -- it was real bad. >> yeah, yeah. >> valdez times ten. >> all right. now yesterday we